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Fan Email of the Week, Vol. 5

by The Raph - posted Tuesday, July 22nd, 2008

Today is a great day for Natscast. Storytime. When I opened up the Natscast inbox this morning and saw that we had an email, I thought little of it. After I opened up the email and began to read I noticed a moist burning sensation in my pants. Terrified, I looked around bobbing and weaving in order to avoid what I thought was the Diamond Ray of Disappearance. I knew my constant foiling of Skeletor’s plans would come back to haunt me eventually, and today was that day. But then my chin started to burn as well. Totally confused, I stood up and looked around the cubicles, trying to identify whom Evil Lynn had possessed. I then realized that the burning sensation was in liquid form, originating from my mouth. It seemed that while reading the following email, my jaw dropped to the floor and the coffee slowly leaked out, leaving a trail of fear in its wake.

This amazing email comes from “The Pagemaster”, who currently resides in lovely Gaithersburg, MD, in response to last week’s fan email discussing jerseys. I hope everyone has the time to read this in its entirety. He even provided the links. Perhaps a new trend is on the cusp - having our listeners/readers do our work. It is an efficient way to go about business, a la the American Way. I am just going to run it as is and I’ll catch you on the Friday edition. Enjoy.

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Well, I’ve channeled my inner Paul Lukas, and after years and years of interest in, purchases of, and research on MLB team jerseys, I’ve decided to create my own ‘Power Rankings’ for the current MLB styles.

I’m more of an apologist when it comes to jersey designs. I think there are only two jerseys in any sport that I ever completely hated when I first saw them. One being the Denver Broncos when they migrated from the ‘Orange Crush’ to the Orange Armpit Stains. The other being MLB’s own, and my beloved Pittsburgh Pirates when someone in the front office decided that introducing an all red sleeveless alternate, to go with the black undershirt and yellow trim. Hey Bob, Ketchup and Mustard works on hot dogs, not on clothing. My only thought was that this decision was made by the same people who knew of their impending termination and wanted to do all they could to screw the Pirates for another 15 years before leaving (see: Pirates trade for Matt Morris and pick up his entire 10 million dollar contract).

5-7 years ago, when I was out of school, working full time, but still living at home, I tossed a lot of my money around on sports jerseys. That said, I always had a problem with the fact that jerseys pretty much cost the same despite the amount of ‘glitz’ if you will, that they had. For example, why does a Yankees jersey, white with a navy blue NY on the chest, cost the same (or more) than say a Brewers jersey, with a huge 3 color BREWERS across the front, and sleeve patch? Granted, some of these plain jane jerseys are classics, but in my opinion they shouldn’t cost the same as the more detailed ones. If you use 1/4 the fabric of everyone else, pass the savings on! I guess this didn’t bother me until the Pirates went sleeveless but their jerseys cost the same price. I lost out on 2 sleeves dammit! Additionally, in personalized jerseys…why does it cost the same for someone with a 1 digit number than a 2 digit number? This is me being picky, I realize…but hell. You should get what you pay for dammit.

Anyway, in coming up with my rankings, here are some of the factors I included:

1. As Dewey said, Home jerseys should be the team name, Road should have the city name. All, with maybe the exception of the Yankees, Tigers, Cardinals, and Red Sox should have some kind of regular sleeve patch (All Star game, anniversary, stadium, memorial, etc. patches don’t count).

STRIKE: If you do not use the full team or city name on your jersey. Why be so lazy Toronto (Jays) and Arizona (D-Backs)?

BONUS: If you have a different sleeve patch on your home and road jersey. Thank you Milwaukee (Home, Road) and San Francisco (Home, Road) . (Dodgers, Nationals, Royals, Twins, A’s all did as well in recent years, but have ‘updated’ for 08)

BONUS: If your squadrons number font is anything besides block. (See Yankees, Orioles, Braves, etc.) Teams with unique number fonts include the Blue Jays, Red Sox, Angels, Mariners (alternates only), Nationals, Phillies, Pirates, Brewers, Reds, Cubs, Astros, Padres, and Diamondbacks. Adding a shadow effect behind block numbers doesn’t count as unique. Sorry Mets.

2. I enjoy the ‘Modern throwbacks’. Teams that have 21st century designs, but are a tribute to years past. You can find these jerseys in Anaheim(yes, Anaheim), Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, San Francisco and the South Side of Chicago regularly, and in Toronto, Kansas City, and Cleveland on certain days. Those such as the Yankees, Red Sox, Cardinals, Cubs, et al, aren’t mentioned because they haven’t changed much over the years for them to have anything to revert back to.

3. I’m also a fan of sleeveless jerseys. Some of my favorites of all time were the old 70’s A’s jerseys (See Reggie Jackson). And of course these can be seen in Maz’s home run to end the 1960 World Series, and on Mr. Clemente in subsequent years. These used to be relatively commonplace throughout the league, but as times have changed, my beloved Pirates now stand as the only current team to go sleeveless on an everyday basis. Sleeveless alternates are visible in Minnesota, Texas, Anaheim, Colorado, and Cleveland.

4. I’ve mentioned Cleveland a couple of times, eh? They bring me to my next point…too many alternates. Are you listening Mets? The threshold for alternate jerseys should be 2. This is violated by the Mets plus this, Twins plus the aforementioned sleveless version, Indians with this addition, and Rangers with the road sleeveless as well. The group of “Alternates?, We don’t NEED no stinkin alternates!” understandably includes your Yankees, Tigers, and Cardinals.

All factors considered, here is your team by team breakdown. Scores based on a scale of 100

AMERICAN LEAGUE:

Orioles: Room for improvement. The classic cursive font has been in place for years, and works well. The sleeve patch has had an identity crisis though, from early-mid 90’s bird, to late 90’s-00’s bird, to cartoon bird, to nothing. Make up your mind Peter. The O’s lose points due to that, and Dewey’s earlier statement of the road jersey not having the city name like it should. Score: 77

Blue Jays: Jazzed up the bird and font in recent years. Not sure it’s much of an improvement though. I know a lot of Canadians are upset about the reduced emphasis of any Canadian references since they did away with the Maple Leaf…but I digress. New Road jersey unveiled this year is a step up. Home jersey loses mad points as stated above for taking the BLUE out of Blue Jays. That deduction, however, is compensated by the wise choice to bring back the powder blue alternates for weekend home games. Then again, that leaves them with 3 jerseys that have 3 different fonts. Eh, since when has Canada been known for it’s consistency… Score: 79

Yankees: Timeless Classics. Should never change. Hell, it’s worked 26 times, why should it ever change? The logo and pinstripes scream baseball. Any updates would drive the purists insane. Time will tell whether or not Hank will give a rats ass. Score: 96

Red Sox: Another Classic. Road jerseys went back to basics after a brief hiatus to the plain Boston font of the 80’s Buckner, Jim Rice, Bruce Hurst, etc. teams that looked like it belonged on a border over a 3rd grade classroom chalk board. Now the 2 fonts match. The addition of a red alternate was a good move. The sock logo on the sleeves might be a nice touch, or how bout this guy…haha. but again, to quote Dewey, if it aint broke, don’t fix it. Score: 93

Rays: Here is disagreement #1 with Dewey. I was a big fan of the 2004-07 DEVIL Rays jerseys. I agree that the ones used from the inaugural season through 03 were garbage, but the following ones, creative font, stingray sleeve patch, nice color scheme, great sleeveless alternate, were brilliant, other than the laziness in not including ‘Devil’ . Who knows what’s going on with these. I guess if you’re one of those ‘less is more’ types, then this is right up your alley. My question is…with this dropping of Devil from the name, are they stingrays like the sleeve patch suggests, or sun rays like the gleam in the font? They’ve had more success this year than their entire 10 year existence prior to this, so I guess it fits, but they look more like a high school team to me now. Score: 65

Indians: I’ve already covered them a decent amount. The font and sleeve patch are sharp, but they just have too damn many. A home, road, home alt, sleeveless alt, and throwback alt. I guess merchandising is good in Northeast Ohio…Even though there are too damn many, its still a nice look. Score: 83

Royals: Much like the team, the jerseys haven’t done a whole lot over the years. They delved into the black jersey fad a few years back, but mercifully did away with those prior to last year. They also added, then subtracted the shadow effect to the team name and numbers. Essentially, this is one of the most plain jerseys there is. Pretty much all Blue and White (or gray) with just a splash of gold. The intent was there in bringing back the powder blues for ‘08, but with the white pants, and Royal Blue font rather than the standard white, I don’t know if the execution is correct. That said, it’s on the boring side, but a nice look. Score: 79

Twins: Another overexposure culprit. I like the Killebrew days font better than I like the current one, but they do get points for reintroducing the TC logo on the hats and sleeve patches. Relatively average, basic red, white, and blue scheme. Not a whole lot else to say about these. Would earn crazy bonus points if they still had the M hat logo on the stirrups, as made famous by your boy Scott Erickson. Score: 76

White Sox: A bandwagon favorite. The olde English interlocking Sox logo is timeless, despite Bill Veeck’s other ghastly visions. The one omission from this years Sox home jerseys (thankfully) is the Comiskey Park patch. Stadium patches are acceptable for the first year of a new place, and the last year of an old one. Nothing more. Comiskey opened in 91, and the patch was there for a good 15 years after? Cmon. All in all these are some of the better jerseys in the league, and have come a LONG way since some of the ‘wave of the future’ ideas they had preceding them. Score: 87

Tigers: See Yankees and Red Sox. The road jersey was updated from this in the early 90’s to add a little bit of pop. It works. I do, however miss the briefly used Tiger prowling through the olde English D. Score: 91

Rangers: Everything is bigger in Texas, including both MLB teams apparel budget, presumably. The Rangers exceed my 2 alternates rule, and the Astros, prior to a scale back this season, were one of the top offenders. That said, the blue font with red trim is an improvement over the red with blue trim that they had for a bit in the mid 90’s. Those made them look like the illegitimate love child of the Red Sox and Angels. That might not be too far off given their performance on the field. Anyway, the current jerseys are pretty nice. They get some bonus dap for being the only team to currently incorporate their state flag into their jerseys. Score: 80

Angels: Another ‘Modern Throwback’. Dewey mentioned the ill fated “sleeveless looking” Mo Vaughn era jerseys, so anything over those would have been a huge improvement. I’m an advocate of them adding the halo back to their hats, a la the original Los Angeles Angels, but I doubt that’s coming in the near future. The new design is crisp, and works very well. If only they had a sleeve patch. They do however get a deduction based on the red on red alternates. Score: 82

A’s: Another item for my wish list: Bring back sunglasses elephant! Other than that, these remind me of Kansas City’s. Pretty average, haven’t changed in a while, shouldn’t change for a while, but they get a bonus point for a unique color scheme. Score: 76

Mariners: I loved these when they were introduced in 94. I still think they’re one of the better sets in the league. I like the navigational aspect. Do you remember their previous logo? What the hell? Hard to believe this design is already in its 14th season. I think it still is a great look. They got away from a prior overuse of teal, which is a plus. I’d like to see a rebirth of the aluminum foil hat brims though…haha. Score: 86

NATIONAL LEAGUE:

Nationals: Somewhat agree with Raph, in that these are on the lower portion of the totem pole. The big bulky letters make the jerseys seem crowded, especially the road version. The interlocking DC on the alternates is nice, and looks better when matched with a cap with the same style font. Either blockify the hats, or cursify the primary jerseys. (vocabulary points). All things considered, they’re in the ‘not much you can do with that nickname’ boat. Score: 69

Phillies: A modern throwback that has its pros and cons. I would love to see them do away with the red pinstripes and use the cream colored alternate they unveiled this year as their primary home jersey. Keep the red hats though…I’m no fan of the new blue version. While the Phils don’t sport a sleeve patch, I have a hard time deciding whether or not having the number on the sleeves is a plus or minus. Since it’s Philadelphia, I’ll give it a minus. Score: 73

Mets: Another seamstress nightmare. I bet the equipment manager loathes any call up from AAA because he then has to sit there and personalize 42 jerseys for the new guy. OK, so it’s not that bad…but really? Do you need 6 different styles? I guess they’re like Costanza…their goal is to have 162 different sets so they never have to do laundry. Maybe it’s to spite the Yankees. “since you have no alternates, we’ll have 13!!” Meh…That said, it’s a good design…just a little excessive. Score: 74

Braves: This is another design that’s about 50 years old, but still looks great. While I still see visions of this jersey sliding under Spanky LaValliere’s tag in 91 (Thanks Dewey), I must admit that it’s stylish. The red alternates are just okay, but the blue on blues they unveiled at the opening game at Nationals Park do what the Angels red on reds don’t. I definitely give them a thumbs up. Braves get a deduction strictly based on 1991 and 1992 though…Score: 85

Marlins: Not a whole lot has changed since the teams birth in 1993, but the decision to make teal an accent rather than the primary color, was a fabulous one. That said, I agree that I’m not big into fish either. The black with ‘aqua’ and silver looks very nice though. I’d say that they have an above average look. Score: 83

Pirates: Well, excuse my bias, but these are obviously some of my favorites. The sleeveless modern throwbacks updated to include the city name on the road jerseys. The font now matches on both home and road, which I prefer. They do however receive a deduction for the pointless pinstripe alternates, and aforementioned horrendous red alternates. Score: 92

Brewers: Another current favorite of mine, even before their recent success. The cursive, yet unique font, vibrant 3 color design, different sleeve patch on home and road, modern throwback alternate… The Brewers have it all, with the exception of not having the city name on the road jersey. I’m willing to overlook that though, since the sleeve patch on the roads does say Milwaukee. The MB glove logo is one of the greatest designs all time in sports, so I was happy to see that return last season. Just my opinion, but I give the beer men high marks. Score: 95

Reds: The first professional franchise has a storied history, and storied uniforms. These are no different. The homes feature the pointed C that has been around forever, and the sleeve patch has gone back to the old school happy baseball man (including Raph approved mustache) reminiscent of the old Cincinnati Red Stockings. The Cincinnati font on the roads is an improvement, and they don’t try to overdo it. The new font and numbers, and red alternate jersey increase their score a bit. Score: 90

Cubs: Well…as classic as they are, if they don’t win the series this year, they should look into wearing actual cub fur. Anything to reverse the curse, right? The homes are damn near perfect. Classic design, nice sleeve patch, streamlined number font, etc. The roads are a little boring, but that comes with the territory for the ‘classics’. The alternate blues are nice as well, though I don’t know who’s ass they’re trying to kiss with the inclusion of a National League patch. Is that just a big F U to White Sox faithful? That’d be my only guess… Score: 92

Cardinals: Everyone from Musial, to Gibson, to the Wizard, to McGwire, to Pujols has had the birds on the bat across their chest. Talk about staying power. Much like the Yanks, the Cards have had nothing but minor tweaks to the classic design since the 20’s. They did have that brief period of powder blues in the 80’s…whatever that was all about…but live and learn. This look should last another 80 years. No frills, no alternates, no sleeve logos…no worries. Score: 89

Astros: Some of the most highly debated jerseys throughout sports history. Who could forget the old Mike Scott era rainbows, or the futuristic shooting star worn by Bagwell, Biggio, and Bell in the mid 90’s? I for one, like the brick color scheme. How often does a team alter their uniform design to match their stadium? Their not quite cursive font is interesting, the ultra thin numbers are funny (admit it), and the addition of the state of Texas to the sleeve patch adds a nice touch. Bonus for reducing the amount of alternates they used prior to this season. Score: 88

Giants: Another modern throwback that works well (surprise surprise). I don’t like that their font is nearly the same as my Pirates, but who wouldn’t want to look as cool as the Buccos! Big ups for el gigantes for the primary jersey being off white, and the different sleeve patches on home and road. The shadow effect modernizes the old school look very nicely. Come to think of it…AT & T and PNC Parks both have the splashdown area past the right field stands…Giants = Pirates West? They both are playing at about the same level…Score: 85

Padres: They’ve struck out just about as many times as the White Sox had. The current ones are one of their better efforts, but that’s not saying much. The toilet bowl combo of yellow and brown in the Winfield and early Gwynn days, the not much better Orange and Brown that Benito Santiago made not so famous, then a nice period of navy blue and orange, no doubt assisting in their only world series appearance…and now this. The font is ok, the ‘beach effect’ wave addition is snappy, but I cant get over the ’sand’ colored road jerseys. If they made viable roadies, they’d get a lot more points…but hell, Sand? The bridge effect on the road font doesn’t help either. It’s a hell of a battle between them and the Rays for low man status. I’ll give the Pads a higher mark now, strictly out of pity. At least the Rays are contending… Score: 66

Diamondbacks: Well, besides being lazy and withholding IAMOND from their home and alternate jerseys, this is a halfway decent design for their locale. It’s got that southwestern desert flair, whatever that is. Maybe Phoenix is trying to give Pittsburgh a run for its money and be the second city where all the sports teams wear the same colors. Think about it, Diamondbacks, Coyotes, Cardinals….Now if they could only do something about those Suns. The maroonish with black and tan is a solid look in my opinion. Much more relative than the Purple/Green/Black Milwaukee Bucks castoffs they had prior to this season. They get a bonus for being sued by a magician and for their number font. Score: 80

Rockies: The only one of the four recent expansion teams to have the exact same home jersey now that they did on day one. The roads changed a little bit since then, but not much. I don’t see the need for the CR sleeveless alternate, and please do away with the black alternates with the black undershirts. With Arizona’s elimination of Purple, these guys are the only Purple People Eaters left in the bigs. One might wonder if that has some effect on their collapse this season…Score: 68

Dodgers: Over the last 2 seasons, less is more. The Dodgers stripped away the outlining that they had on their road jerseys over the prior years, and switched the Dodgers sleeve patch to the interlocking LA. The homes have stayed consistent since Jackie’s days in Brooklyn. Not much will, or should, be done with these in coming years. They’ll continue to be the standard in the NL West division jersey standings. Score: 89.

So there you have it…as I said, I’m more an apologist, and not nearly as angry as your lovable NatsCast contributors, so these scores may come in a bit high. Of course, this is just one mans opinion…I’m sure there are thousands out there, and most love their home town teams jerseys as much as I love the Pirates ones, so fire when ready…

Regards, The Pagemaster.

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Fan Email of the Week, Vol. 4

by The Raph - posted Tuesday, July 15th, 2008

All right, hopefully everyone got their fill of the All Star game last night, because we are completely changing gears courtesy of the “Big Dipper”. Apparently this fan rests not in Ursa Major at (10.67 h and +55.38°) but at (38°50′3″N, 77°12′41″W). First one to use their GPS gets my disgust. Use a map, and get a free drink on me.

I like how you guys talk about beards, dip and other overlooked details that give baseball its character and color. How about an entry ranking the all-time uniforms or maybe best current uniforms (although they can’t hang vs. the old school uniforms IMO). Thanks.

Awesome topic Big Dipper, and I am glad you brought this up. Many of those within earshot are well educated in my opinion of the current Nationals design (crap). My personal favorite is the cursive style font, with an slight upward tilt, very similar to the Pittsburgh road grays from 1990 (Note: the city name was returned to the jersey after a 36 year hiatus, while the block Pirates remained on the home jersey). If you look at the history of Washington baseball, you will find the Senators sporting a scripted style for their second go-round in the District. If Teddy Ballgame looks good in it, then it is good for me.

Moving on to the idea of an MLB-wide uniform discussion creates logistical problems in comparisons. Those preferring the old tyme baseball genre will undoubtedly choose the flannels from yesteryear. In contrast, the younger generations are so accustomed to the modern cluttered jerseys that anything other than vibrant colors are too passive. Dewey gets to answer the question, well, because he has more jerseys than I do. Scientific reasoning.

(Make sure to check the links for The Raph’s personal collection of stupendous):

Dewey’s Reaction:

I guess I’m of the old school because after going through all the jerseys I found, it’s the traditional ones that stand out the most. The clean white with bold letters that – for the most part – haven’t changed since the turn of the century. I broke it down to a top 10 of sorts, and it’s the usual suspects. That’s right – The Red Sox, Yankees, Dodgers, Giants, Cubs, Tigers, Braves, Cardinals, White Sox and old Pirates. Classic teams that have been around for a while. And all these hats are great as well. Not a dud in the group. There’s something to be said for a team that has the same color scheme and same jersey that – again, for the most part – is the same years on end. When you can have a true alumni system where generations come back and can see their jersey on new blood its always a good thing. I’m not saying that any change is bad, but keep it in the same ballpark. It’s why certain teams have good fan bases and pride if you ask me.

Some honorable mentions go to the old Phillies (’lil maroon in the mix with that classic P and baseball combo) and the under appreciated Royals. The O’s are ok too (you happy B-More?) but until you have the city going across your chest on the road jersey, you remain an honorable mention. See you in 2010 or whenever.

The worst jerseys aren’t hard to name. It’d be easy to list the ones you all know and love to hate. The 70’s Astros and Padres. The 70’s – Ok, pretty much any jersey worn in the 70’s. But what about the newer one’s that do too much? Like the original Devil Rays with the rainbow theme, the Blue Jays with that T and bird deal they have now (what was wrong with the ‘92 blues I ask?) and the Mo Vaughn Angels pin stripe and wings mishap. And why was it ever considered a good idea to have a too tight tee shirt with no buttons be a jersey? Never again baseball, never again. This is not Arena football. Ugh.

The best hats in the league pretty much follow that same list. Anything with letters of the city is great. Interlocking or Olde English is better. The one exception to the city rule would be the Twins, who brought back – thank God – the old TC hat a few years ago. I also have love for the Mets old orange and blue hats and I hate the new take with the black. It’s like a bad sequel. Same characters but with a lack of the reasons you fell in love with it in the first place. Is it possible for a hat to have a bad plot? Shut it, let’s pretend.

Some others that I appreciate that haven’t been mentioned above are be the A’s and Reds.

The worst hats are similar to the list of worst jerseys. I never understood why teams have to change what works so often. The Padres had something good with the blue hats with the orange and white SD. Now they are silver and, what is that tope? Really… tope??? Huh? I get the Marlins hat. I truly do. I just don’t like it. It’s a fish. I don’t even like to eat fish, why would I like it on my hat. And I appreciate the Rays moving to a much better TB hat, rather than that horrible thing they used to have with the TB and a stingray… why?

Can you guess what’s missing from this entire discussion though? What team didn’t get mentioned anywhere? The Nationals. It’s not that I don’t like the script W. It’s not bad. I even have the hat. I also have the DC hat, which I almost like better (see interlocking letters above). It’s just that it doesn’t stand out to me as a great combo yet. No flavor to the jersey letters at all except the W. Just block blah. Maybe it will grow on me. I don’t know. The fact that the W is from the Senators is a plus, it ties the new and old. And I do think if the jersey font was a similar script it would enhance the whole jersey. Like Raph says, “it just doesn’t match.”

A baseball jersey is not rocket science, but so often it can be over thought. And it is one of the few things where if it looks old it’s probably better. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it – unless you’re the Diamondbacks, just stop everything and get back to me when you don’t look like a garbage. This isn’t the California Penal League.

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So thanks Big Dipper. This post was long, courtesy of Dewey, and I hope we contributed to your lack of production at work. Keep sending in those emails, and we might get to it next Wednesday.

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